McShea taking a dump on our childhoods | Ducktales Review 4.0

It's obvious what the real problem is here. He reviewed it on PS3! Damn Sony consoles ruining our nostalgia and causing perfectly good multiplats to receive bad scores.

All the butthurt in this thread is reminding me of when people got their knickers in a twist when the Simpson's arcade game port scored poorly here.

I was slightly interested in this remake since I never played the NES game. May still get since evidently the game still scored nicely elsewhere.

whoops, done it again

They just got MCSHEA'D

Sagem28

Oh McShea strikes again...:(

Never played the game, but yeah, looks pretty boring. As far as I understand, the remake is only about the graphics, without doing anything for the gameplay mechanics, and well, revisiting 20 year old game mechanics usually results in them feeling severely dated when compared to modern games.

And I can get his point about the story, if a cartoon plot is padded with scientific explanations for every little thing, that's a valid complaint. You don't think much over stupid stuff in a cartoon, you just get over it... because it's a cartoon!

I was on the fence about the game as the gameplay trailers did look a little on the boring side. I'll probably pick it up when it drops in price. I never got to play the NES version, so I'd like to try it at some point.

So he is also a retro toll.?

Lol Tom McShea, Lol Crapcom

So he is also a retro toll.?

tormentos

Gamespot reviews games in comparison how they stack up to the current game quality standards, and they are obviously getting higher over time.

When a 20 year old game is remastered with a new coat of paint while not recieving any signifficant improvements to its dated mechanics, it'll score low. Now, if you enjoyed the original Ducktales, you'll probably enjoy this one the same, especially if you're running on a healthy supply of nostalgia, but a newcomer would be far more critical of the game.

All in all, I see nothing wrong with this review, the game is obviously targetting at a specific audience, and they'll probably enjoy it, but it would never meet any sort of mainstream success.

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

So he is also a retro toll.?

Rocker6

Gamespot reviews games in comparison how they stack up to the current game quality standards, and they are obviously getting higher over time.

When a 20 year old game is remastered with a new coat of paint while not recieving any signifficant improvements to its dated mechanics, it'll score low. Now, if you enjoyed the original Ducktales, you'll probably enjoy this one the same, especially if you're running on a healthy supply of nostalgia, but a newcomer would be far more critical of the game.

All in all, I see nothing wrong with this review, the game is obviously targetting at a specific audience, and they'll probably enjoy it, but it would never meet any sort of mainstream success.

By that way no game should score high Nes games even that some were mega fun,compare to todays games they aren't much... So yeah MC Shea is a retro troll.

Hey look Gamespot has yet another outlying review giving it a front row spot at Metacritic and maybe some more website hits. It's almost like they strategizeNuck81

i guess McShea is not much for retro-gaming :lol:

At least Tom doesn't let nostalgia or hype blind him. And let's face it: DuckTales is a really simplistic platformer by today's standards. I loved the original ones back then, but they haven't aged that well.

I was quite fond of this game when I was younger, but according to Tom, my sentiments lay biased from rose tinted glasses

BPoole96

Uh... what ?!

This looked like it wa shaping up to be a brilliant remake. Kept in spirit of the original one and also the songs were remade brilliantly. Will watch the review and see what is so wrong with it :?

R4gn4r0k

Review seemed completely fine.Blabadon

Wonder if anyone here looked past the number score actually read the revi-

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So he is also a retro toll.?

Rocker6

Gamespot reviews games in comparison how they stack up to the current game quality standards, and they are obviously getting higher over time.

When a 20 year old game is remastered with a new coat of paint while not recieving any signifficant improvements to its dated mechanics, it'll score low. Now, if you enjoyed the original Ducktales, you'll probably enjoy this one the same, especially if you're running on a healthy supply of nostalgia, but a newcomer would be far more critical of the game.

All in all, I see nothing wrong with this review, the game is obviously targetting at a specific audience, and they'll probably enjoy it, but it would never meet any sort of mainstream success.

That's not true, the main reason why it got bashed by McShea was because the controls are shit compared to the tight, responsive controls of the original. The second reason is because the difficulty of the original got turned down a few notches here in this remastered version, making the platforming devoid of any challenge.. It's all there in the written review.

Basically, they didn't improve upon the mechanics, didn't even retain them. They simplified them and broke the controls.

Game looks fine. Maybe it's just too hard for the babies playing games today.

That's not true, the main reason why it got bashed by McShea was because the controls are shit compared to the tight, responsive controls of the original. The second reason is because the difficulty of the original got turned down a few notches here in this remastered version, making the platforming devoid of any challenge.. It's all there in the written review.

Basically, they didn't improve upon the mechanics, didn't even retain them. They simplified them and broke the controls.

Lucianu

Game looks fine. Maybe it's just too hard for the babies playing games today.

rosko123

It's actually easier than the original, check what i just wrote above.

And anyway, here's what i would change in this remastered version:

Ditch the shitty, unnecessary plot/cutscenes that hinder the pace of the game.
2D high quality, fluid graphics just like in Rayman Origins, not that quasi-3D, clunky bullshit or whatever the hell it is.
Keep the old stages, but add in a few other quality stages to the mix for the purpose of extra content.
Keep the tightness of the original, not that floaty crap.
Keep the difficulty.

Voila. You've got a solid 8.0 of a game, easily.

This doesn't bode well for the Gamespot Review of Shovel Knight.

Easily the worst reviewer

Why is he still employed?

Sweenix

I'm still getting it, I hardly ever listen to GameSpots reviews (always too harsh) From watching this review it's like he was expecting a brand new game, it's a "remaster" not a "reboot" meaning they updated the visuals, the music and added a little to the existing story, they were never going to overhaul all of the gameplay mechanics... SMHDOADS87

They made the mechanics worse.. read the review(s), or what i wrote above, so you can have a better perspective before dishing out 15 bucks for it, and potentially regreting it.

Tom McShea reviews :lol:heeweesRus

If he hates it, it must be good.

[QUOTE="R4gn4r0k"]

Uh... what ?!

This looked like it wa shaping up to be a brilliant remake. Kept in spirit of the original one and also the songs were remade brilliantly. Will watch the review and see what is so wrong with it :?

skrat_01

Don't see anything wrong with taking over old game design or gameplay.

Just like Rise of The Triad, people that are fond of these old school games will love the new entries. But people that are used to modern games will not.

IGN criticised Serious Sam 3 for not being like COD. I think it's just stupid if you want all games to play and be designed in the same way. There are so many games with modern game design, nothing wrong with creating some that are a blast from the past.

Look at Dark Souls, that's another game that reminds us very much of old game designs: it's very hard, causing you to die a lot and do the same parts of the game again and again. Reviewers could've said: "But modern games are supposed to be easy :cry:" yet they didn't...

[QUOTE="DOADS87"]I'm still getting it, I hardly ever listen to GameSpots reviews (always too harsh) From watching this review it's like he was expecting a brand new game, it's a "remaster" not a "reboot" meaning they updated the visuals, the music and added a little to the existing story, they were never going to overhaul all of the gameplay mechanics... SMHLucianu

They made the mechanics worse.. read the review(s), or what i wrote above, so you can have a better perspective before dishing out 15 bucks for it, and potentially regreting it.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="R4gn4r0k"]

Uh... what ?!

This looked like it wa shaping up to be a brilliant remake. Kept in spirit of the original one and also the songs were remade brilliantly. Will watch the review and see what is so wrong with it :?

R4gn4r0k

Don't see anything wrong with taking over old game design or gameplay.

Just like Rise of The Triad, people that are fond of these old school games will love the new entries. But people that are used to modern games will not.

IGN criticised Serious Sam 3 for not being like COD. I think it's just stupid if you want all games to play and be designed in the same way. There are so many games with modern game design, nothing wrong with creating some that are a blast from the past.

Look at Dark Souls, that's another game that reminds us very much of old game designs: it's very hard, causing you to die a lot and do the same parts of the game again and again. Reviewers could've said: "But modern games are supposed to be easy :cry:" yet they didn't...

If you disagree with the review, then score the game yourself. There is a User Score for a reason.

I will buy the game in any case because I am huge fan of Duck Tales cartoons. Probably the game isn´t great by modern standards, and it´s gameplay didn´t age well. But who cares. It´s only like 12$ bucks on greenmangaming.

But people should learn one thing: STOP WHINING ABOUT REVIEWERS´ SCORES. NOBODY SHOULD GET FIRED BECAUSE OF HAVING A DIFFERENT OPINION.

Don´t be petty morons.  

Oh I meant more 'because it is faithful to the original it carries it's baggage', whatever it's highs and lows might be. RoT seems faithful to the original but technical issues aside, also has it's flaws and correcting those would compromise the developers vision. There's no right or wrong here in reinterpreting or remaking either it's just a matter of doing what you want to do.

If IGN said that then the reviewer was a bit of a dullard, it's about what it is not what it isn't, but the problem is even if a game is old-school or faithful to the source material it is still going to be criticised by todays standards ideally. So even if it's faithful it might be a flawed game today, not to say it's a bad remake.

In terms of Dark Souls it's because of the way that game was built from the ground up; there was some smart design behind it and it's very much a modern game in many ways, it's old school in ethos. In terms of something like SS3, the first 2 hours of the game are just shit and it has it's issues, even if it's a great oldschool romp; throwback doesn't create equal games.skrat_01

True, ROTT also got marked down for technical issues and terrible platforming. Never played the original, was that platforming in there ?

Some people will love throwbacks to old games and genres. Like the successes of Kickstarter projects show. But others won't. I think we all have grown accustomed to modern game design in a lot of ways. And usually that's for the better. Though personally I think old school shooters are a lot better than what we have today in a lot of cases, though there are still a lot of great FPS coming out. But soley talking about multiplayer I hate it how every FPS now has to have unlocks, perks, XP and all that useless stuff. 

The IGN reviewer didn't say those exact words but he called COD 'the thinking mans shooter' compared to old game design ala Serious Sam. Which is just plain wrong, they just have different design.

This is a very interesting discussion on game design and how it has progressed over the years. But there is no right or wrong. To some people Ducktales will be a 9.0 game and to others a 4.0. Who's to say who is right and who is wrong ?

This is why I use GameRankings. Another one of McShea's shock scores.

When will people understand that negative reviews are actually helpful to see how good a game is? But then again most people here are morons who only care about meaningless numbers.

If you liked the original, you'll like this. If you didn't, stay away from it. 

Well life is like a hurricane

If you liked the original, you'll like this. If you didn't, stay away from it. toast_burner

it's on my steam wishlist. i'll still get it when it goes on sale.

The reviewer is just a personality for the website. People line up just to see what game he is gonna flop next. When you got people saying "oh, this game got mcshea'd" it signifies that the reviewer in question is a journalistic joke that is merely being used to get hits. People need to stop adding fuel to his bull crap. I mean seriously, don't even mention his name so he can further boost his notoriety and thus boost his career.Ghost120x

There is absolutely no way a game like Duck Tales should be scoring well in 2013. The game is repetitive with very outdated platforming elements and it needs a whole lot more than a new coat of paint for it to score in the same ball park as games like NSMBU, Super Meat Boy, and Rayman Origins. Really, it shouldn't even score well next to platformers like Super Mario Bros 3, Ninja Gaiden, and Mega Man. I still don't understand how this game was so loved.